Cal is fully upgraded with 8 stims and his double-bladed lightsaber. Of course we’ve seen other masters lose to clone s(all of order 66) buts it’s just that the inquisitors are supposed to be these master characters but they don’t anything to back it up. understood I’m guessing cal is more shaak ti level. Shop for darth maul toys online at Target. Cal Kestis & Kanan Jarrus vs The Grand Inquisitor & Second Sister. So Cal, a beginner-stage Padawan, under a vastly sub-par teacher, became even worse after Order 66. He has far superior feats with the Force and much better dueling skills. on topic the Disparity as nearly as great against Maul as it was against Vader. Darth Vader slaughters the competition with the most votes of the day (14-1) While Darth Maul, Count Dooku, Chewbacca and Leia Organa trail close behind (13-2 / 12-3 / 12-3 / 11-4)-----286. However, Maul still stomps But in this duel Cal is at least able to do more then with Vader. Feral was among those chosen by Nightsister Asajj Ventress to become her chosen champion in her campaign of vengeance against her former master, Count Dooku. All the gulfs. Seventeen years after leaving the Jedi Order, she has honed her skills to mastery, casually defeating two Inquisitors, dueling former Sith Lord Darth Maul on even ground, and putting up a respectable fight against Darth Vader. Star Wars duels, however, rarely occur on equal footing or level ground. When Stunt Coordinator and Sword Master Nick Gillard sets down to script a lightsaber duel, he needs to have some guage as to how competent the combatants are. Cal was barely good enough to be a Jedi knight, and never actually got the training to pass as one. you can have master jedi at lower levels. Cal Kestis vs Darth Vader (JFO) Grogu vs Cal Kestis. Cal outmatched the Second Sister and the Ninth Sister, whereas this version of Kanan struggles HARD against any Inquisitor. Star Wars' Darksaber is among the franchise's most legendary items, making appearances in Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Star Wars: Rebels and most recently, The Mandalorian.While fans continue to speculate who owns the weapon in The Mandalorian, a new fan theory on Reddit claims that Luke Skywalker is the Darksaber's rightful owner.. Reddit user u/ImpulsiveBeetle connects the dots between … Darth Plagueis is the Sith Lord who mentored Palpatine and is best known for his mastery of immortality. Maul is tiers upon tiers above Cal in every category that matters. @mo_ali: Yeah but Vader stomped Cal waaaay harder than Sidious did Maul. These feats alone easily put kanan above everyone else in saber skill. Maul v. Sidious: Mastery v. Mastery (not to say they are equal - refer back to my previous reply). The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Launch: Some of them just happen to have gotten this opportunity at the… strangest time. It’s definitely a mismatch. Maul knows niman and Yuyo the best, and teras kasä. 5 months ago Both Cal and the Inquisitors are trash. Ben Solo / Kylo Ren vs. Cassian Andor 287. @redheathen: When was it ever said master level was purely dueling skill? "George Lucas works on a system of levels... For the curious, Gillard does not reveal any Jedi who has achieved level ten. Maul sends in the Twi'lek bodyguard he killed when attacking the Black Sun, and she solostomps. Maul, the Dathomirian Zabrak male who would become the feared Darth Maul, was born on Dathomir to Kycina, a Human Nightsister of Mother Talzin's coven and a Zabrak father who, by tradition, was murdered after Maul's conception. She took one to a crime lord on Hradreek whilst selling the other to the Galactic Empire. Could Cal beat Darth Maul with his robotic legs after the end of Fallen Order? I'm really curious where this has been said. He could compete with high-level Jedi Masters like Qui-Gon Jinn. Maul wins 10/10; every time with no difficulty. He has very good showings of course, and he did defeat two Inquisitors in combat, which is no small feat. [Star Wars] Cal Kestis vs Kanan Jarrus Battle Haven’t played the game yet and I could never really get myself to enjoy Rebels too much, but it seems like an interesting matchup as they were both padawans who never completed their training by the time Order 66 came around. Feral was a male Dathomirian Zabrak Nightbrother who lived during the Clone Wars. As an adolescent Padawan. The Empire isn't keeping around any Jedi of remotely impressive ability. Kit Fisto 288. Cal is basically one of those randoms that are in Maul's way when he's butchering his way to the real fight. Was able to last longer against a non serious sidious. No because you can force slow one person while other enemies still move at their normal speed, so cal is definitely slowing his enemies down rather than speeding them up. Ezra and Cal is below Mauls pay grade. And why do you say that Cal is able to do more then with Vader? The highest is nine, occupied by a small number of capable sword masters... Qui Gon only lost to Maul due to being in a tight battlefield that his fighting style didn’t work in, yet he was Jedi council master level. The Inquisitors he beat are garbage. Sidious is nigh the most powerful mortal in all the galaxy, and Maul gave him a fight that, even though Sidious ended it decisively, gave Sidious a run for his money...for a moment. Savage's death would continue to fuel his brother Maul's rage for the rest of his life. Cal loses, very hard. Ok thanks for clarifying. Choose from contactless Same Day Delivery, Drive Up and more. Maybe then I can better reply. Vader vs Cal was worse than if I were to fight my 2 and a half year old nephew. Maul stomps almost as bad as Vader did. I would really like to have a source for that. The inquisitors just don’t have feats against really anyone named. ps if you feel it’s a mismatch I’ll delete. I just read that Kestis "displayed competence with Jar'Kai." Cal Kestis and Nightsister Merrin (Jedi Fallen Order) vs. Darth Maul (Star Wars Canon) Battle. At some point after the Battle of Yavin, the smuggler Sana Starros recovered his pair of crossguard lightsabers. It's set from a clearly limited narrative POV that covers only one side of SW - Cal and Cere's journey - and AFAIK it doesn't once reference Sidious/Palpatine as a Sith (feel free to prove otherwise, been a while since I played it). To top it off, Cal didn't use his lightsaber for 5 years. Haven’t played the game but it sounds fishy to me. Can you provide anything official that places the Emperor and Vader on a similar skill level? Didn’t his master die in order 66? Darth Atrius was a male Sith Lord who lived during the time the Sith were plentiful and powerful. As soon as Maul begins to tell his own history, Ezra looks intrigued and sympathetic. Still don't know if that would make a difference though. In Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order, Cal Kestis is a boring, inhuman, singleminded killer who is only capable of solving every problem with his lightsaber. You are indeed where you belong. Hell we’ve seen 1 master take on dozens of clones in the clone wars show. This topic is locked from further discussion. Cal is a high tier jedi knight at the absolute most, I personally put him at mid knight though, which is where most inquisitors sit besides people like the gi who is low master. Vader might Force choke you to your knees, but Maul could dropkick you and then it’s Welcome to Double-Bladed Lightsaber Town. I’d argue that he’s not slowing time, just increasing his speed and reflexes. So he's much worse as a fighter in Fallen Order than he was as a child. Gulf of Mexico. Star Wars products are produced by Hasbro under license from Lucasfilm Ltd. Star Wars Rebels Seventh Sister Inquisitor vs. Darth Maul: Includes 2 figures, 6 accessories and … R1: On Dathomir in the Tomb of Kujet where Cal and Merrin fought Malicos. the tiers are solely for lightsaber skills. Servants of the dark side, both Darth Maul and Darth Vader became deadly and powerful Sith. In my opinion in terms of lightsaber skill it goes blind kanan>kylo>cal>cere>ezra=rey. @ckarma: wasn’t his master not that impressive? Maul took on Sidious and showed us one heck of a fight (after Savage is killed), one of the best fast-and-furious, blades-only duels in all of Star Wars. Superhero Class. Thanks. Kanan only defeated maul due to him receiving a force powerup, after maul slashed his eyes. I really need help here, but I am admittedly far behind on anything new in canon, especially the games. I’ve watched all the fights and have read all the feats, but not much of the actual story. I’d give this to Maul 10/10. And while Obi-Wan may have fought Darth Maul, he didn’t preform particularly well. They're all immensely sub-par, and they continue to prove this by struggling against someone like Cal. By birth, Maul was a Nightbrother; a clan of male Zabraks from Dathomir who served as warriors and slaves of the dominant Nightsisters. Afterward, comments were made that appeared (to me) to discuss the tiering as though it had something to do with ranks in the Jedi Order: "Cal is a high tier jedi knight at the absolute most, I personally put him at mid knight though, which is where most inquisitors sit besides people like the gi who is low master. Kanan before going blind did better against Vader than cal or cere and after going blind was able to beat maul in a somewhat circumstantial victory. Unfortunately for him, he taught most of his knowledge to his deceptive apprentice who turned on him. In that case maybe but maul was strong with the force, and also new how to defend against it. @co-boss: His master was more impressive than Ki ad Mundi who got stomped by clones, Jaro Tapal pretty much soloed a star destroyer full of clones. He wielded two crossguard lightsabers. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! on topic the Disparity as nearly as great against Maul as it was against Vader. But the point is inquisitors are clearly confident in taking Jedi masters, at least #2 and 9. there are jedi who are masters but not master duelists. Maul however has killed several knights and masters, most notably qui gon jinn. Considering Cal was left alive, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they make another game and Cal has to fight Maul. The individual who became known as the Fifth Brother originally occupied a position within the Jedi Order and survived Order 66. I suspect it's because Force Slow is a relatively unique power in Canon, so few Force users can adequately resist it like they do with Push or Pull. Their evil acts were many: Maul destroyed Qui-Gon Jinn and later defeated Pre Vizsla to capture the fabled Darksaber. Feel like Cal should be low tier master level at. On equal-footing, such ranking could easily determine the victor. I’m mostly running off of what I’ve heard about the game and some light scaling, I really need to play it. Huge mismatch. ", "...Cal should be low tier master level...". He has far superior feats with the Force and much better dueling skills. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. At some point after the Galactic Republic was reorganized into the Galactic Empire, he was inducted into an Imperial agency of Force-sensitive assassins called the Inquisitorius, w… Bail Organa vs. Captain Rex 290. For all of their hype, they don’t have any actual substance, or at least not a lot of it. At least Maul was able to hang around in a fun fight and put up a good showing saber to saber. His master was fodder enough to lose to the same amount of clones Zett Jukasa lost to. Content in video is expressed using PG-13 rated movies and Teen + rated comics, TV shows, video games, and books; and is not intended for children. But on days when we embrace our dark side, some might emulate the … He was the younger brother of Savage Opress and Darth Maul, and a son of Mother Talzin. I'd give it to Maul 9/10, on the off-chance that Cal's Slow ability works on him. Then padawan cal proceeded to freeze a whole squad of clones as a child with the force, a feat easily master level. This is something exceedingly few duelists would ever be capable of, even in their dreams. There are exceedingly few force combatants who would be able to land a kick on Sidious, and most especially one that would send Sidious flying across the room: The tiering system used for making the movies placed Maul on tier 8, which had other great duelists-some of the best other than the cream of the crop (Yoda, Sidious, ROTS Anakin). Vader is immune probably bc he himself can easily match said speed with force power. R2: Same as R1 but Cal and Merrin both have lightsabers. The fighting has evolved in these last three movies considerably," says Gillard. Maul curbstomped Savage Opress in seconds, Savage being able to kill a Jedi Master with ease before he was even trained in the Force. Jet: Like Ezra Bridger, a street rat turned jedi! He probably just graduated from Initiate status. As Palpatine described to Anakin in Revenge of the Sith, Darth Plagueis the Wise's knowledge of the dark side of the Force was so vast that he could stop the people he loved from perishing.. Maul stomps, just too far above cal. Kestis is so far below tier 8, that it isn't even fair to say that the separation between Maul and Sidious is equal to the gulf between Kestis and Vader. I'll say it again. @ckarma: the problem with inquisitors is we never get to see that. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. I'm surprised he went to Dathomir and he didn't meat him, considering Maul should probably be on Dathomir at that time. @co-boss: Second sister asks cal who his master was and then says “Someone I killed?”, so idk about that. 3 Jedi masters could easily take on ten clones. Jabba the Hutt vs. I'd like to add it to my files, if you don't mind. Opress was later mentioned by a member of the Whills as s… How do you gauge these disparities? below equal with maul… Maul wins, but any notion that Vader stomped him harder than Emperor did Maul is nonsense, We have Palpatine ragdolling and crub stomping both Maul and Savage combained in the begining and pinning them against wall and holding them there for multiple seconds, and he was doing it complelty effortlesly to the point that he was laughing while doing it, all of them were trying their hardest to escape yet they could not do anything, not even make him feel even slightest bit of resistance, he the only let them go when he chose to do so so that he can play with them, this is similar to what Vader did to Cal but Emperor did that to 2 force users, not just one and he was laughing while doing it, it was that effortles to him, Maul and Savage combained are less than insects to Palpatine, even in the end of their fight rage amped Maul who is much strogner then on his base level got crub stomped by Emperor like if he was less than insect, even Dooku( somone who is above Maul in force) is less than insect to the Emperor, Maul fighting with Emperor with sabers and kicking him is not proof that he is good dullest or force user in any way, he was doing it because Emperor was toying with him, it was like Superman toying with Batman so Batman kicks him few times, in the novelization of clone wars( primary canon to EU and lower canon to Disney canon but it still tells us characters capabilities ) Maul even gets speed blitzed, Palpatine, in the end, starts to increase his speed to the point that Maul sees blades from evrey possible directions coming at him at once and then even more than that and gets speed blitzed, clearly showing that Emperor can speed blitz and one-shot rage amped Maul if he wanted to, Emperor is, without doubt, trillions of times more powerful than Maul not only by feats(effortlesly lifting 10 000 star destroyers at his weakest) but also by in-universe standing, the gap between Emperor and maul is far bigger than the gap between Vader and Cal which is alredy enermous, Emperor destroyed entire rebel fleet with lightning, and while he was amped by powers of Kylo and Rey, both of them are fodders to him so that amp was very small and meaningless and only served to bring him to his ROTJ Level since he was very weakened as corpse, and he destroyed rebel fleet while laughing, so it was effortles so that amp did not help him here, so, without doubt, Emperor could easily kill hundreds or thousands of Darth Mauls with single force lightning attack, So Maul fighting somone who was toying with him is by no menas show of his power, not any more than Batman lasting agisnt Superman more than Hal Jordan in justice league wars is, OT: Maul should win in a decent to easy fight.
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